• Errors with DOVE-net

    From Trever@1:103/705 to All on Mon Jan 6 09:47:52 2020
    I am getting the following error. There are 16 different errors all similar to
    this. I am running Synchronet. As a former Wildcat SysOp back in the day I am
    trying to get Syncronet figured out. Any ideas on what I should do about this error?

    !ERROR reading (000220) #2/2 /sbbs/data/subs/dove-unix

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Trever on Mon Jan 6 13:38:53 2020
    Re: Errors with DOVE-net
    By: Trever to All on Mon Jan 06 2020 09:47 am

    I am getting the following error. There are 16 different errors all similar to this. I am running Synchronet. As a former Wildcat SysOp back in the day I am trying to get Syncronet figured out. Any ideas on what I should do about this error?

    !ERROR reading (000220) #2/2 /sbbs/data/subs/dove-unix

    There should be more to the error message than that. However, you might want to
    start with checking the ownership and permissions on /sbbs/data/subs/dove-unix.*

    digital man

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  • From Trever@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Mon Jan 6 17:23:22 2020
    Re: Errors with DOVE-net
    By: Digital Man to Trever on Mon Jan 06 2020 01:38 pm

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  • From Trever@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Mon Jan 6 17:27:42 2020
    Re: Errors with DOVE-net
    By: Trever to Digital Man on Mon Jan 06 2020 05:23 pm

    Re: Errors with DOVE-net
    By: Digital Man to Trever on Mon Jan 06 2020 01

    Here is a large portion of the error.log All files are owned by sbbs:sbbs. I am also having issues with ssh not able to bind to port 22. I moved the regular ssh to run on a different port thinking that may be interfering but it still is happening.

    on Jan 6 17:16:01 2020 sandboxbbs.com
    term Node 1 <Trever> !ERROR 2 (No such file or directory) in getmsg.cpp line 86
    (loadmsg) reading "(000220) #2/2 /sbbs/data/subs/dove-unix" access=-103 info=smb_getmsghdr corrupt message header ID (6F 6D 3A 20) at offset 544

    Mon Jan 6 17:16:04 2020 sandboxbbs.com
    term Node 1 <Trever> !ERROR 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) in getmsg.cpp
    line 86 (loadmsg) reading "(000220) #2/2 /sbbs/data/subs/dove-unix" access=-103
    info=smb_getmsghdr corrupt message header ID (6F 6D 3A 20) at offset 544

    Mon Jan 6 17:16:04 2020 sandboxbbs.com
    term Node 1 <Trever> !ERROR 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) in getmsg.cpp
    line 86 (loadmsg) reading "(000220) #2/2 /sbbs/data/subs/dove-unix" access=-103
    info=smb_getmsghdr corrupt message header ID (6F 6D 3A 20) at offset 544

    Mon Jan 6 17:16:04 2020 sandboxbbs.com
    term Node 1 <Trever> !ERROR 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) in getmsg.cpp
    line 86 (loadmsg) reading "(000220) #2/2 /sbbs/data/subs/dove-unix" access=-103
    info=smb_getmsghdr corrupt message header ID (6F 6D 3A 20) at offset 544

    Mon Jan 6 17:16:05 2020 sandboxbbs.com
    term Node 1 <Trever> !ERROR 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) in getmsg.cpp
    line 86 (loadmsg) reading "(000220) #2/2 /sbbs/data/subs/dove-unix" access=-103
    info=smb_getmsghdr corrupt message header ID (6F 6D 3A 20) at offset 544

    Mon Jan 6 17:16:05 2020 sandboxbbs.com
    term Node 1 <Trever> !ERROR 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) in getmsg.cpp
    line 86 (loadmsg) reading "(000220) #2/2 /sbbs/data/subs/dove-unix" access=-103
    info=smb_getmsghdr corrupt message header ID (6F 6D 3A 20) at offset 544

    Mon Jan 6 17:16:05 2020 sandboxbbs.com
    term Node 1 <Trever> !ERROR 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) in getmsg.cpp
    line 86 (loadmsg) reading "(000220) #2/2 /sbbs/data/subs/dove-unix" access=-103
    info=smb_getmsghdr corrupt message header ID (6F 6D 3A 20) at offset 544

    Mon Jan 6 17:16:06 2020 sandboxbbs.com
    term Node 1 <Trever> !ERROR 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) in readmsgs.cpp line 707 (scanposts) checking "/sbbs/data/subs/dove-unix" access=2

    Mon Jan 6 17:16:06 2020 sandboxbbs.com
    term Node 1 <Trever> !ERROR 2 (No such file or directory) in getmsg.cpp line 86
    (loadmsg) reading "(000220) #2/2 /sbbs/data/subs/dove-ham" access=-103 info=smb_getmsghdr corrupt message header ID (30 B0 00 20) at offset 544

    Mon Jan 6 17:16:06 2020 sandboxbbs.com
    term Node 1 <Trever> !ERROR 2 (No such file or directory) in getmsg.cpp line 86
    (loadmsg) reading "(000220) #2/2 /sbbs/data/subs/dove-ham" access=-103 info=smb_getmsghdr corrupt message header ID (30 B0 00 20) at offset 544

    Mon Jan 6 17:16:07 2020 sandboxbbs.com
    term Node 1 <Trever> !ERROR 2 (No such file or directory) in getmsg.cpp line 86
    (loadmsg) reading "(000220) #2/2 /sbbs/data/subs/dove-ham" access=-103 info=smb_getmsghdr corrupt message header ID (30 B0 00 20) at offset 544

    Mon Jan 6 17:16:07 2020 sandboxbbs.com
    term Node 1 <Trever> !ERROR 2 (No such file or directory) in getmsg.cpp line 86
    (loadmsg) reading "(000220) #2/2 /sbbs/data/subs/dove-ham" access=-103 info=smb_getmsghdr corrupt message header ID (30 B0 00 20) at offset 544

    Mon Jan 6 17:16:07 2020 sandboxbbs.com
    term Node 1 <Trever> !ERROR 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) in getmsg.cpp
    line 86 (loadmsg) reading "(000220) #2/2 /sbbs/data/subs/dove-ham" access=-103 info=smb_getmsghdr corrupt message header ID (30 B0 00 20) at offset 544

    Mon Jan 6 17:16:07 2020 sandboxbbs.com
    term Node 1 <Trever> !ERROR 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) in getmsg.cpp
    line 86 (loadmsg) reading "(000220) #2/2 /sbbs/data/subs/dove-ham" access=-103 info=smb_getmsghdr corrupt message header ID (30 B0 00 20) at offset 544

    Mon Jan 6 17:16:07 2020 sandboxbbs.com
    term Node 1 <Trever> !ERROR 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) in getmsg.cpp
    line 86 (loadmsg) reading "(000220) #2/2 /sbbs/data/subs/dove-ham" access=-103 info=smb_getmsghdr corrupt message header ID (30 B0 00 20) at offset 544

    Mon Jan 6 17:16:08 2020 sandboxbbs.com
    term Node 1 <Trever> !ERROR 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) in readmsgs.cpp line 707 (scanposts) checking "/sbbs/data/subs/dove-ham" access=2

    Mon Jan 6 17:18:40 2020 sandboxbbs.com
    term Node 1 <Trever> !ERROR 2 (No such file or directory) in getmsg.cpp line 86
    (loadmsg) reading "(000220) #2/2 /sbbs/data/subs/dove-unix" access=-103 info=smb_getmsghdr corrupt message header ID (6F 6D 3A 20) at offset 544

    Mon Jan 6 17:18:41 2020 sandboxbbs.com
    term Node 1 <Trever> !ERROR 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) in getmsg.cpp
    line 86 (loadmsg) reading "(000220) #2/2 /sbbs/data/subs/dove-unix" access=-103
    info=smb_getmsghdr corrupt message header ID (6F 6D 3A 20) at offset 544

    Mon Jan 6 17:18:42 2020 sandboxbbs.com
    term Node 1 <Trever> !ERROR 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) in getmsg.cpp
    line 86 (loadmsg) reading "(000220) #2/2 /sbbs/data/subs/dove-unix" access=-103
    info=smb_getmsghdr corrupt message header ID (6F 6D 3A 20) at offset 544

    Mon Jan 6 17:18:42 2020 sandboxbbs.com
    term Node 1 <Trever> !ERROR 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) in getmsg.cpp
    line 86 (loadmsg) reading "(000220) #2/2 /sbbs/data/subs/dove-unix" access=-103
    info=smb_getmsghdr corrupt message header ID (6F 6D 3A 20) at offset 544

    Mon Jan 6 17:18:42 2020 sandboxbbs.com
    term Node 1 <Trever> !ERROR 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) in getmsg.cpp
    line 86 (loadmsg) reading "(000220) #2/2 /sbbs/data/subs/dove-unix" access=-103
    info=smb_getmsghdr corrupt message header ID (6F 6D 3A 20) at offset 544

    Mon Jan 6 17:18:42 2020 sandboxbbs.com
    term Node 1 <Trever> !ERROR 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) in getmsg.cpp
    line 86 (loadmsg) reading "(000220) #2/2 /sbbs/data/subs/dove-unix" access=-103
    info=smb_getmsghdr corrupt message header ID (6F 6D 3A 20) at offset 544

    Mon Jan 6 17:18:43 2020 sandboxbbs.com
    term Node 1 <Trever> !ERROR 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) in getmsg.cpp
    line 86 (loadmsg) reading "(000220) #2/2 /sbbs/data/subs/dove-unix" access=-103
    info=smb_getmsghdr corrupt message header ID (6F 6D 3A 20) at offset 544

    Mon Jan 6 17:18:43 2020 sandboxbbs.com
    term Node 1 <Trever> !ERROR 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) in readmsgs.cpp line 707 (scanposts) checking "/sbbs/data/subs/dove-unix" access=2

    Mon Jan 6 17:18:43 2020 sandboxbbs.com
    term Node 1 <Trever> !ERROR 2 (No such file or directory) in getmsg.cpp line 86
    (loadmsg) reading "(000220) #2/2 /sbbs/data/subs/dove-ham" access=-103 info=smb_getmsghdr corrupt message header ID (30 B0 00 20) at offset 544

    Mon Jan 6 17:18:44 2020 sandboxbbs.com
    term Node 1 <Trever> !ERROR 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) in getmsg.cpp
    line 86 (loadmsg) reading "(000220) #2/2 /sbbs/data/subs/dove-ham" access=-103 info=smb_getmsghdr corrupt message header ID (30 B0 00 20) at offset 544

    Mon Jan 6 17:18:44 2020 sandboxbbs.com
    term Node 1 <Trever> !ERROR 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) in getmsg.cpp
    line 86 (loadmsg) reading "(000220) #2/2 /sbbs/data/subs/dove-ham" access=-103 info=smb_getmsghdr corrupt message header ID (30 B0 00 20) at offset 544

    Mon Jan 6 17:18:45 2020 sandboxbbs.com
    term Node 1 <Trever> !ERROR 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) in getmsg.cpp
    line 86 (loadmsg) reading "(000220) #2/2 /sbbs/data/subs/dove-ham" access=-103 info=smb_getmsghdr corrupt message header ID (30 B0 00 20) at offset 544

    Mon Jan 6 17:18:45 2020 sandboxbbs.com
    term Node 1 <Trever> !ERROR 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) in getmsg.cpp
    line 86 (loadmsg) reading "(000220) #2/2 /sbbs/data/subs/dove-ham" access=-103 info=smb_getmsghdr corrupt message header ID (30 B0 00 20) at offset 544

    Mon Jan 6 17:18:45 2020 sandboxbbs.com
    term Node 1 <Trever> !ERROR 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) in getmsg.cpp
    line 86 (loadmsg) reading "(000220) #2/2 /sbbs/data/subs/dove-ham" access=-103 info=smb_getmsghdr corrupt message header ID (30 B0 00 20) at offset 544

    Mon Jan 6 17:18:45 2020 sandboxbbs.com
    term Node 1 <Trever> !ERROR 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) in getmsg.cpp
    line 86 (loadmsg) reading "(000220) #2/2 /sbbs/data/subs/dove-ham" access=-103 info=smb_getmsghdr corrupt message header ID (30 B0 00 20) at offset 544

    Mon Jan 6 17:18:46 2020 sandboxbbs.com
    term Node 1 <Trever> !ERROR 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) in readmsgs.cpp line 707 (scanposts) checking "/sbbs/data/subs/dove-ham" access=2

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  • From Trever@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Mon Jan 6 17:29:59 2020
    Re: Errors with DOVE-net
    By: Trever to Digital Man on Mon Jan 06 2020 05:27 pm

    Correction. All files are owned by bbs:bbs

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Trever on Mon Jan 6 17:59:53 2020
    Re: Errors with DOVE-net
    By: Trever to Digital Man on Mon Jan 06 2020 05:27 pm

    Re: Errors with DOVE-net
    By: Trever to Digital Man on Mon Jan 06 2020 05:23 pm

    Re: Errors with DOVE-net
    By: Digital Man to Trever on Mon Jan 06 2020 01

    Here is a large portion of the error.log All files are owned by sbbs:sbbs. I am also having issues with ssh not able to bind to port 22. I moved the regular ssh to run on a different port thinking that may be interfering but it still is happening.

    on Jan 6 17:16:01 2020 sandboxbbs.com
    term Node 1 <Trever> !ERROR 2 (No such file or directory) in getmsg.cpp line 86 (loadmsg) reading "(000220) #2/2 /sbbs/data/subs/dove-unix" access=-103 info=smb_getmsghdr corrupt message header ID (6F 6D 3A 20) at offset 544

    Looks like a corrupted message base.
    See http://wiki.synchro.net/util:chksmb
    and
    http://wiki.synchro.net/util:smbutil#examples

    Or, if you don't have a lot of messages you care about in that particular sub, you can just delete /sbbs/data/subs/dove-unix.*

    digital man

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  • From Trever@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Mon Jan 6 19:49:39 2020
    Re: Errors with DOVE-net
    By: Digital Man to Trever on Mon Jan 06 2020 05:59 pm

    I delete that one and one other that was giving me greif.

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Trever on Mon Jan 6 20:50:11 2020
    Re: Errors with DOVE-net
    By: Trever to Digital Man on Mon Jan 06 2020 07:49 pm

    Re: Errors with DOVE-net
    By: Digital Man to Trever on Mon Jan 06 2020 05:59 pm

    I delete that one and one other that was giving me greif.

    Okay. If it continues to be a problem, let us know.

    digital man

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  • From Mortifis@1:103/705 to Trever on Wed Jan 8 09:41:44 2020
    Re: Errors with DOVE-net
    By: Digital Man to Trever on Mon Jan 06 2020 01:38 pm

    ---
    Synchronet My Brand-New BBS
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    :-P

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to MORTIFIS on Wed Jan 8 18:36:00 2020
    ---
    Synchronet My Brand-New BBS
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    :-P

    How about an old fashioned rusty one?? :P

    Daryl


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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Daryl Stout on Wed Jan 8 23:52:39 2020
    Re: Re: Errors with DOVE-net
    By: Daryl Stout to MORTIFIS on Wed Jan 08 2020 06:36 pm

    Synchronet My Brand-New BBS
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    How about an old fashioned rusty one?? :P

    Or an old worn-out BBS?

    Nightfox

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to NIGHTFOX on Thu Jan 9 16:04:00 2020
    Synchronet My Brand-New BBS
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    How about an old fashioned rusty one?? :P

    Or an old worn-out BBS?

    Running on a TRS-80 Model 100 32K laptop.

    Wait a minute!! That's what I started Sysoping on!! <G>

    Daryl


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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Daryl Stout on Fri Jan 10 12:14:23 2020
    Re: Re: Errors with DOVE-net
    By: Daryl Stout to NIGHTFOX on Thu Jan 09 2020 04:04 pm

    Or an old worn-out BBS?

    Running on a TRS-80 Model 100 32K laptop.

    Wait a minute!! That's what I started Sysoping on!! <G>

    :) Sometimes I had thought about trying to run Synchronet on an Android device
    or a jailbroken iPhone/iPad just for fun. Android and iOS both have some form of *nix as their base OS, and you can get a bash shell on a jailbroken iOS device and connect to it via SSH; I'm sure the same could be done on an Android
    device. I've wondered what it would take to get Synchronet to build on such a device. Some sysops have installed Synchronet on a Raspberry Pi, so why not an
    Android or iOS device? ;) The only thing would be that it might be more difficult to run DOS doors on a device like that.

    Nightfox

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to NIGHTFOX on Sat Jan 11 11:28:00 2020
    :) Sometimes I had thought about trying to run Synchronet on an Android devi N>or a jailbroken iPhone/iPad just for fun. Android and iOS both have some for N>of *nix as their base OS, and you can get a bash shell on a jailbroken iOS N>device and connect to it via SSH; I'm sure the same could be done on an Andro N>device. I've wondered what it would take to get Synchronet to build on such N>device. Some sysops have installed Synchronet on a Raspberry Pi, so why not N>Android or iOS device? ;) The only thing would be that it might be more N>difficult to run DOS doors on a device like that.

    I've wondered about a telnet client for an Android. The bad thing is
    the screen is too small to work with.

    Daryl


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  • From Mortifis@1:103/705 to Daryl Stout on Thu Jan 9 11:39:59 2020
    ---
    Synchronet My Brand-New BBS
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    :-P

    How about an old fashioned rusty one?? :P

    Daryl

    Make that a beer and I'm in :-P

    Moss don't grow on busy streets!

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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Daryl Stout on Sun Jan 12 12:21:12 2020
    Re: Re: Errors with DOVE-net
    By: Daryl Stout to NIGHTFOX on Sat Jan 11 2020 11:28 am

    I've wondered about a telnet client for an Android. The bad thing is
    the screen is too small to work with.

    There's an fTelnet for Android, which I think renders BBS ANSI fairly well. In
    the past, there used to be an iOS app called iSSH that worked with ANSI BBSes fairly well. But you're right, I think phones tend to be too small.

    I used to have a smartphone with a dedicated hardware keyboard. The screen would slide to the side a bit to reveal the keyboard. I wish there were more smartphones like that.

    Nightfox

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Nightfox on Sat Jan 11 15:38:00 2020
    On 01-10-20 12:14, Nightfox wrote to Daryl Stout <=-

    Re: Re: Errors with DOVE-net
    By: Daryl Stout to NIGHTFOX on Thu Jan 09 2020 04:04 pm

    Or an old worn-out BBS?

    Running on a TRS-80 Model 100 32K laptop.

    Wait a minute!! That's what I started Sysoping on!! <G>

    :) Sometimes I had thought about trying to run Synchronet on an
    Android device or a jailbroken iPhone/iPad just for fun. Android and

    Other than the technical curiosity and "coz I can" factor, why bother? ;)


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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to NIGHTFOX on Mon Jan 13 02:15:00 2020
    There's an fTelnet for Android, which I think renders BBS ANSI fairly
    well. In the past, there used to be an iOS app called iSSH that
    worked with ANSI BBSes fairly well. But you're right, I think
    phones tend to be too small.

    I can't remember the name of it, but there are a few apps.

    I used to have a smartphone with a dedicated hardware keyboard.
    The screen would slide to the side a bit to reveal the keyboard. I
    wish there were more smartphones like that.

    I used to have a phone like that years ago. But, it's easier to type
    on a regular desktop keyboard.

    Daryl


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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Daryl Stout on Tue Jan 14 11:16:19 2020
    Re: Telnet Client For Android
    By: Daryl Stout to NIGHTFOX on Mon Jan 13 2020 02:15 am

    There's an fTelnet for Android, which I think renders BBS ANSI fairly
    well. In the past, there used to be an iOS app called iSSH that
    worked with ANSI BBSes fairly well. But you're right, I think
    phones tend to be too small.

    I can't remember the name of it, but there are a few apps.

    I've heard of ConnectBot for Android, though I don't think it renders BBS ANSI properly. From what I remember, there are very few mobile telnet apps that render BBS ANSI properly.. fTelnet (for Android) and iSSH (for iOS but is no longer available) are the only mobile telnet apps I've seen that render BBS ANSI properly.

    I used to have a smartphone with a dedicated hardware keyboard.
    The screen would slide to the side a bit to reveal the keyboard. I
    wish there were more smartphones like that.

    I used to have a phone like that years ago. But, it's easier to type
    on a regular desktop keyboard.

    I agree. I took a typing class in 8th grade and learned to touch-type, so I still find it easier to type on a regular desktop keyboard (a good laptop keyboard is fine with me too). For mobile, I find hardware keyboards easier and more accurate than the on-screen keyboards. There's no tactile feedback with the on-screen keyboards, and they tend to rely on things like auto-complete in order to type messages fast. Auto-complete can be inaccurate,
    and sometimes people don't seem to proofread their message and will send/save things with mistakes in them. People also often use voice input on their mobile devices, which can often be inaccurate.

    Nightfox

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  • From nolageek@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Tue Jan 14 17:07:27 2020
    Re: Telnet Client For Android
    By: Nightfox to Daryl Stout on Tue Jan 14 2020 11:16 am

    There's an fTelnet for Android, which I think renders BBS ANSI fairly
    well. In the past, there used to be an iOS app called iSSH that
    worked with ANSI BBSes fairly well. But you're right, I think
    phones tend to be too small.

    I agree with both of you. Using the BBS on a phone is an exercise in frustration. Vertically the keyboard is too small and it takes multiple tries for people to log in and horizontally either the main window floats all over the place when you're tying to type, or you have to move it back and forth to see what you're doing (if the native keyboard doesn't hijack you and take over the entire screen.

    I can't count how many times I've found someone interested in BBSing only to have the encounter end with "I'll just log in when I get home". I usually give them a sticker so they'll remember (if I have any on me at the time.)


    I used to have a smartphone with a dedicated hardware keyboard.
    The screen would slide to the side a bit to reveal the keyboard. I
    wish there were more smartphones like that.

    Oh man. I still have my T-Mobile Sidekick, even though their proprietary servers shut down rendering it little more than a paperweight. I loved that thing. Best keyboard ever IMHO.

    |01-|03nolageek

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to nolageek on Wed Jan 15 17:54:00 2020
    On 01-14-20 17:07, nolageek wrote to Nightfox <=-

    I agree with both of you. Using the BBS on a phone is an exercise in frustration. Vertically the keyboard is too small and it takes multiple tries for people to log in and horizontally either the main window
    floats all over the place when you're tying to type, or you have to
    move it back and forth to see what you're doing (if the native keyboard doesn't hijack you and take over the entire screen.

    The only way I can see a phone working is with a Blutooth keyboard, but kinda defeats the purpose of portability.


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  • From Rampage@1:103/705 to Tony Langdon on Wed Jan 15 08:26:12 2020
    Re: Re: Telnet Client For Android
    By: Tony Langdon to nolageek on Wed Jan 15 2020 17:54:00


    The only way I can see a phone working is with a Blutooth keyboard, but
    kinda defeats the purpose of portability.

    these search results might be interesting ;)

    https://www.google.com/search?q=roll-up+keyboard+computer


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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Rampage on Thu Jan 16 11:17:00 2020
    On 01-15-20 08:26, Rampage wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    The only way I can see a phone working is with a Blutooth keyboard, but
    kinda defeats the purpose of portability.

    these search results might be interesting ;)

    https://www.google.com/search?q=roll-up+keyboard+computer

    Hmm, OK. Interesting. But still some issues with carrying it and maybe using it in some tight places, like on a bus. ;)


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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to NIGHTFOX on Wed Jan 15 00:59:00 2020
    I've heard of ConnectBot for Android, though I don't think it renders BBS ANS N>properly. From what I remember, there are very few mobile telnet apps that N>render BBS ANSI properly.. fTelnet (for Android) and iSSH (for iOS but is no N>longer available) are the only mobile telnet apps I've seen that render BBS N>ANSI properly.

    I probably could search for it, but the screen on an Android is just
    too small to work with.

    I agree. I took a typing class in 8th grade and learned to touch-type, so I N>still find it easier to type on a regular desktop keyboard (a good laptop N>keyboard is fine with me too). For mobile, I find hardware keyboards easier N>and more accurate than the on-screen keyboards. There's no tactile feedback N>with the on-screen keyboards, and they tend to rely on things like N>auto-complete in order to type messages fast. Auto-complete can be inaccurat N>and sometimes people don't seem to proofread their message and will send/save N>things with mistakes in them. People also often use voice input on their N>mobile devices, which can often be inaccurate.

    I became a touch typist, having been a Sysop nearly 30 years
    now...never had a typing course in my life. I believe there are sites
    that can "test your typing speed", but I've never tried them.

    Daryl


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